servers in Australia - Dotable

ethan · 26th March 2006, 11:44 AM

Why dont you build servers in Australia? It's easier to control them, is that correct? And it's really faster for your Aussie customers. I think there are severals DCs in Australia, or even you can colo your servers within a Telecom company's DC (even it can be smaller)

Aussie Bob · 26th March 2006, 12:07 PM

Rackspace and bandwidth is much more expensive in Australia, as compared to LA, where the Dotable cabinet is now. Also servers in Australia only benefit folks inside Australia, and not traffic from outside of Australia. If the servers were colocated in Aussie, the pricing of the plans would be greatly increased, to cover increased rackspace and bandwidth costs incurred.

LA is the perfect middle ground, with great speeds for everyone. Dotable is a mix of Aussie and international clients, so we have to appeal to the broadest possible market, and servers in Australia limits our market. Aussie clients also get great speeds from the LA cabinet.

So that's some of my reasoning with the majority of servers being in LA, although I'm not ruling out some servers in Aussie if Aussie clients specifically want an Aussie server. I can see that happening in the next 6mths.

ethan · 26th March 2006, 01:16 PM

I see your current price is cheaper than HTTPMe

So, I think a bit higher price is not an issue, if customers believe you

Your servers are colocated in the same building with HTTPMe. I am not sure, but I think the same cabinet with HTTPMe? So, why your price can be cheaper, meanwhile you are offering more bandwidth? I know you are a great person, just wonder

Aussie Bob · 26th March 2006, 02:24 PM

HTTPme servers are in different cabinets, but in the same cage in LA.

The Dotable model is different than HTTPme's model (when I owned httpme), and HTTPme's pricing was set in 2002, and a lot's changed with the hosting landscape, since 2002.

ethan · 26th March 2006, 05:31 PM

Sorry, I thought a cabinet has some rack, but it seems I am wrong

can you tell me what the difference betwwen rack, cabinet and cage? a full rack has 42U, is that correct? how about cabinet? cage?

thanks

Aussie Bob · 26th March 2006, 05:37 PM

Dotable has a locking cabinet, rather than an open rack. The cabinet sits inside a cage, and the cage we're in is about 4mx4m in dimensions.

Yes, a full rack/cabinet can hold 42U of space. That's about 17 2U servers and switch etc. We've only used 2 servers so far, and have lots of rackspace inventory to fill with this Cabinet.

In this pic, the Dotable lockable cabinet is the one to the left -

ethan · 26th March 2006, 05:41 PM

oh, it's 42U, and you just use 4U for 2 servers, and 1U for switch. So, you still have 37U

Do you think to provide dedicated server, or colo?

Aussie Bob · 26th March 2006, 05:46 PM

Dedicateds and colo down the track a tad. Maybe a year at minimum. I like to slowly roll out the model, and get the business on a solid footing, before getting into the higher end products like dedicated servers and colocation. That's not Dotable's market for the time being.

nonstop · 26th March 2006, 09:10 PM

ethan,

Please allow me a comment to your thread.

HTTPme.com without Aussie Bob is not the legend HTTPme.com. I think 'Aussie Bob' himself is the best brand in the reseller hosting world. So I can say 'Cheaper' isn't 'Less services'. I was one of HTTPme.com customers...

ethan · 26th March 2006, 10:05 PM

No, I dont say Dotable service is worse than HTTPMe

As said, I know he's a great person, just wonder why, cause Dotable and HTTPMe is using the same facilities. Will dotable increase price next year or so?

26th March 2006, 11:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
ethan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	servers in Australia Why dont you build servers in Australia? It's easier to control them, is that correct? And it's really faster for your Aussie customers. I think there are severals DCs in Australia, or even you can colo your servers within a Telecom company's DC (even it can be smaller)

26th March 2006, 12:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aussie Bob Dotable Founder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land down under Posts: 4,068	Rackspace and bandwidth is much more expensive in Australia, as compared to LA, where the Dotable cabinet is now. Also servers in Australia only benefit folks inside Australia, and not traffic from outside of Australia. If the servers were colocated in Aussie, the pricing of the plans would be greatly increased, to cover increased rackspace and bandwidth costs incurred. LA is the perfect middle ground, with great speeds for everyone. Dotable is a mix of Aussie and international clients, so we have to appeal to the broadest possible market, and servers in Australia limits our market. Aussie clients also get great speeds from the LA cabinet. So that's some of my reasoning with the majority of servers being in LA, although I'm not ruling out some servers in Aussie if Aussie clients specifically want an Aussie server. I can see that happening in the next 6mths. __________________ Please review Dotable at the following review sites - HostJury.com \| WebHostingStuff.com

26th March 2006, 02:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Aussie Bob Dotable Founder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land down under Posts: 4,068	HTTPme servers are in different cabinets, but in the same cage in LA. The Dotable model is different than HTTPme's model (when I owned httpme), and HTTPme's pricing was set in 2002, and a lot's changed with the hosting landscape, since 2002. __________________ Please review Dotable at the following review sites - HostJury.com \| WebHostingStuff.com

26th March 2006, 05:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Aussie Bob Dotable Founder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land down under Posts: 4,068	Dotable has a locking cabinet, rather than an open rack. The cabinet sits inside a cage, and the cage we're in is about 4mx4m in dimensions. Yes, a full rack/cabinet can hold 42U of space. That's about 17 2U servers and switch etc. We've only used 2 servers so far, and have lots of rackspace inventory to fill with this Cabinet. In this pic, the Dotable lockable cabinet is the one to the left - __________________ Please review Dotable at the following review sites - HostJury.com \| WebHostingStuff.com

26th March 2006, 05:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Aussie Bob Dotable Founder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land down under Posts: 4,068	Dedicateds and colo down the track a tad. Maybe a year at minimum. I like to slowly roll out the model, and get the business on a solid footing, before getting into the higher end products like dedicated servers and colocation. That's not Dotable's market for the time being. __________________ Please review Dotable at the following review sites - HostJury.com \| WebHostingStuff.com

26th March 2006, 01:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
ethan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	I see your current price is cheaper than HTTPMe So, I think a bit higher price is not an issue, if customers believe you Your servers are colocated in the same building with HTTPMe. I am not sure, but I think the same cabinet with HTTPMe? So, why your price can be cheaper, meanwhile you are offering more bandwidth? I know you are a great person, just wonder

26th March 2006, 05:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
ethan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	Sorry, I thought a cabinet has some rack, but it seems I am wrong can you tell me what the difference betwwen rack, cabinet and cage? a full rack has 42U, is that correct? how about cabinet? cage? thanks

26th March 2006, 05:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
ethan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	oh, it's 42U, and you just use 4U for 2 servers, and 1U for switch. So, you still have 37U Do you think to provide dedicated server, or colo?

26th March 2006, 09:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
nonstop Samurai Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 73	ethan, Please allow me a comment to your thread. HTTPme.com without Aussie Bob is not the legend HTTPme.com. I think 'Aussie Bob' himself is the best brand in the reseller hosting world. So I can say 'Cheaper' isn't 'Less services'. I was one of HTTPme.com customers... __________________ Yoshinao Aussie Bob client since Aug 2003

26th March 2006, 10:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
ethan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	No, I dont say Dotable service is worse than HTTPMe As said, I know he's a great person, just wonder why, cause Dotable and HTTPMe is using the same facilities. Will dotable increase price next year or so?

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